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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Nov 5, 2012 11:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It's time to decide - move forward or fall back?

I'm no lawyer, but it seems to me that to apply the 14th amendment to "unborn children" is the same as outlawing abortion in all circumstances. It sound real nice to extend personhood and citizenship to fetuses, but this sets up a situation where pregnant women will at best have to fight legal battles to have abortions that might save their lives.

This is not some abstract thing to me, someone I am close to was in a situation where an abortion might have made a difference in saving her life. She didn't have the abortion, partly because she didn't have accurate information about the cancer, and has a healthy child, but the disease advanced through her system during those intervening months and as a result she may not live much longer.

Banning abortion might make you feel good, but we ignore these stark realities at our own peril.

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Poster: cosmicharIie Date: Nov 5, 2012 5:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It's time to decide - move forward or fall back?

did she want an abortion, but was refused one? Or did she want a healthy child and choose (by refusing chemo/radiation) to have that child?

That would have been her free choice and if that's what happened, she is a hero in my eyes.

How does she feel about it now? Does she still have prefered an abortion?

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Nov 5, 2012 8:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It's time to decide - move forward or fall back?

No, she never wanted one. But she never really had to make the choice because the doctor misdiagnosed her and didn't catch the cancer. They didn't find it until they were already performing an emergency c-section, at which point they also took out the cancer. The entire thing was rather emotional as you might imagine. My point, and one that she has made many times, is that she doesn't know what she would have done if she'd known, but hopes that she would have at least been given that choice.